Umar never believed in the abrogation of the stoning verse
Some Sunni sites claim that the verse about stoning does not belong to the Qur’an according to Umar. In this regard, one states the following:
However, the hadith to which the text refers is not found under number 8184, but under number 8071. Moreover, it does not prove anything.
Yunus Ibn Jubair reported that Kathir Ibn Salt said: “Ibn-ul-As and Zaid Ibn Thabit used to write it in the Mus’haf. Then they passed by this verse. So Zaid said: ‘I heard the Messenger of God (s.) say: “If an aged man and woman commit fornication, by all means stone them.’ Then Amr said: “When it was sent down, I came to the Prophet (s.), whereupon I said: “Let it be written down.” Thus, it was as if he hated that.” Then Amr said to him: “Do you not see that if an aged man commits fornication and is married, he is whipped and stoned, and if he is not married, he is whipped, and if a touched woman, when she commits fornication and is married, she is stoned?” [Al-Mustadrak of Al-Hakim, Volume 4, page 400 – 401, Hadith 8071]
حدثني محمد بن صالح بن هانئ ثنا الحسين بن محمد بن زياد ثنا محمد بن المثنى ومحمد بن بشار قالا ثنا محمد بن جعفر ثنا شعبة عن قتادة عن يونس بن جبير عن كثير بن الصلت قال: كان ابن العاص وزيد بن ثابت يكتبان في المصاحف فمرا على هذه الآية فقال زيد سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: الشيخ والشيخة فارجموهما البتة فقال عمرو: لما نزلت أتيت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقلت: أكتبها فكأنه كره ذلك فقال له عمرو: ألا ترى أن الشيخ إذا زنى وقد أحصن جلد ورجم وإذا لم يحصن جلد وأن الثيب إذا زنى وقد أحصن رجم
The Prophet does not say a word about abrogation here. All we have here is the personal impression of Amr: “As if he hated that.” And who says at all that the Prophet hated the writing down of the verse? Perhaps he hated it when Amr gave him orders? In any case, the hadith does not provide any clarity. Likewise, the impression of Amr could be a mistake.
Also, the next hadith referred to in the text is not found on page 211, but on page 367 and has no proof in terms of content.
Muhammad reported that Kathir ibn Salt said: “We were at Marwan and among us was Zaid ibn Thabit. Zaid said: “We used to read: “if an aged man and an aged woman commit fornication, by all means stone them.” He said: “So Marwan said: “Do we not put it in the Mus’haf?” He said: “No, do you not see that two touched youths are stoned to death?” He said: “And he said: “They mentioned that and among us was Umar Ibnu l-Khattab. He said: “I am healing you from that one.” We said: “How?” He said: “I come to the Prophet (s.). Then I mention such and such. Then when he mentions stoning, I say, O Messenger of God, let me write down the verse about stoning.” He said: “So I came to him, whereupon I mentioned it.” He said: “Then he mentioned the verse about stoning.” He said: “So he said: “O messenger of God, let me write down the verse about stoning.” He said: “I cannot do that.” [As-Sunan of Al-Baihaqi, Volume 8, Page 367, Hadith 16913]
Umar wants to settle the dispute by asking the prophet to write the verse. The Prophet refuses, saying: “I cannot do that.” What exactly can he not do? Is it that he cannot write? Or maybe he cannot let Umar write? Perhaps he merely hates the writing down of Umar: “As if he hated that.” At any rate, at no point does the prophet say a word about abrogating the verse. Who is surprised then, if Umar wants to add the verse even after his death.
Ibn Ashtah reported in Al-Masahif that Laith Ibn Sa’d said: “The first who collected the Qur’an was Abu Bakr and Zaid wrote it down and people came to Zaid. So he did not write down any verse except with two honest witnesses and the end of the chapter At-Tawbah was not found except with Khuzaimah Ibn Thabit. So he said: “Write it down, for the Messenger of God (s.) equated his testimony with the testimony of two men.” So he wrote it down and Umar came with the verse about stoning. However, he did not write it down as he was the only one.” [Al-Itqan of As-Suyuti, page 131]
وقد أخرج ابن أشته في المصاحف عن الليث بن سعد قال: أول من جمع القرآن أبو بكر وكتبه زيد وكان الناس يأتون زيد بن ثابت فكان لا يكتب آية إلا بشاهدي عدل وأن آخر سورة براءة لم توجد إلا مع خزيمة بن ثابت فقال: اكتبوها فإن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم جعل شهادته بشهادة رجلين فكتب وإن عمر أتى بآية الرجم فلم يكتبها لأنه كان وحده
Then they claim:
